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Today I'm moving... into a hotel for 90 days.  The city bought the
property I've been renting part of, to level and make way for some larger
project (there's a couple other properties around that are already
cleared), and they're paying for 90 days temporary lodging in a hotel,
after which we'll get permanent relocation assistance as well.

It's apropos here because the hotel has wifi and I've been connected via
ethernet and cable modem (and before that DSL) for decades now.  I bought
a wifi adapter but as I'm on a desktop/workstation, things aren't mobile
enough to have actually tried it "live" yet, so I don't actually know for
sure that I'll be reconnected via the wifi 2nite or 2morrow, and it's
possible I'll be offline for a few days (hopefully not long!!).

So if I go missing for a few days and don't answer posts, there were
complications and the reconnect via wifi didn't go as planned.  But it
should be temporary...

I'll be signing off for the last time at this location in a few minutes.  
See you guys on the other side!

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Re: Moving...

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On Wed, 01 Jun 2016 13:01:31 +0000, Duncan wrote:

> Today I'm moving... into a hotel for 90 days.  The city bought the
> property I've been renting part of, to level and make way for some
> larger project (there's a couple other properties around that are
> already cleared), and they're paying for 90 days temporary lodging in a
> hotel, after which we'll get permanent relocation assistance as well.

Ouch - that stinks - though it's good that they're paying for the lodging.

Good luck with your move - we've just moved in to our new place this past
weekend after ~3 months in a temporary place ourselves (we were waiting
for construction to finish on our new place, as it was behind schedule -
in fact, they're in here now doing some of the final finish work).

The second move was much easier, since we unpacked only what we needed -
but living out of boxes isn't a lot of fun.

Anyways - I've not been around much here myself, but you've always
provided good help when I've had questions - so I wanted to wish you luck
with your move. :)

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Re: Moving...

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Jim Henderson posted on Wed, 01 Jun 2016 18:05:39 +0000 as excerpted:

> On Wed, 01 Jun 2016 13:01:31 +0000, Duncan wrote:
>
>> Today I'm moving... into a hotel for 90 days.  The city bought the
>> property I've been renting part of, to level and make way for some
>> larger project (there's a couple other properties around that are
>> already cleared), and they're paying for 90 days temporary lodging in a
>> hotel, after which we'll get permanent relocation assistance as well.
>
> Ouch - that stinks - though it's good that they're paying for the
> lodging.
>
> Good luck with your move - we've just moved in to our new place this
> past weekend after ~3 months in a temporary place ourselves (we were
> waiting for construction to finish on our new place, as it was behind
> schedule - in fact, they're in here now doing some of the final finish
> work).
>
> The second move was much easier, since we unpacked only what we needed -
> but living out of boxes isn't a lot of fun.

Obviously I finally got everything reattached and up and running at the
hotel.  I don't know what speeds I get on the wifi yet, but it's good for
this.

I should be asleep but wanted to finish hooking things up and then get on
line to let you guys know I'm back, so keepin' it short.  But yes, the
second move should be easier.  The two big problems with the first were,
(1) I've been in the same place for about 15 years, so had accumulated...
(2) I was in a trailer, which I had pulled behind me the last couple
times I moved, so didn't have the normal thinning out of stuff by
throwing a bunch away at the move, those times.  Really, the last time I
went thru everything in a move was the late 80s, tho I had gone thru some
of it over the years.  But I threw a bunch of stuff out in the first move
this time, and after sorting a bit more will be throwing out a bit more,
incrementally anyway.  So I'm traveling /much/ lighter, now. =:^)

I'd have actually thrown some more except I didn't know where I was
moving after the hotel.  So I kept some stuff in case I needed it when I
ultimately move out of the hotel.  We'll see.


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Re: Moving...

Jim Henderson-4
On Sat, 04 Jun 2016 09:33:57 +0000, Duncan wrote:

> Jim Henderson posted on Wed, 01 Jun 2016 18:05:39 +0000 as excerpted:
>
>> On Wed, 01 Jun 2016 13:01:31 +0000, Duncan wrote:
>>
>>> Today I'm moving... into a hotel for 90 days.  The city bought the
>>> property I've been renting part of, to level and make way for some
>>> larger project (there's a couple other properties around that are
>>> already cleared), and they're paying for 90 days temporary lodging in
>>> a hotel, after which we'll get permanent relocation assistance as
>>> well.
>>
>> Ouch - that stinks - though it's good that they're paying for the
>> lodging.
>>
>> Good luck with your move - we've just moved in to our new place this
>> past weekend after ~3 months in a temporary place ourselves (we were
>> waiting for construction to finish on our new place, as it was behind
>> schedule - in fact, they're in here now doing some of the final finish
>> work).
>>
>> The second move was much easier, since we unpacked only what we needed
>> -
>> but living out of boxes isn't a lot of fun.
>
> Obviously I finally got everything reattached and up and running at the
> hotel.  I don't know what speeds I get on the wifi yet, but it's good
> for this.
>
> I should be asleep but wanted to finish hooking things up and then get
> on line to let you guys know I'm back, so keepin' it short.  But yes,
> the second move should be easier.  The two big problems with the first
> were, (1) I've been in the same place for about 15 years, so had
> accumulated...
> (2) I was in a trailer, which I had pulled behind me the last couple
> times I moved, so didn't have the normal thinning out of stuff by
> throwing a bunch away at the move, those times.  Really, the last time I
> went thru everything in a move was the late 80s, tho I had gone thru
> some of it over the years.  But I threw a bunch of stuff out in the
> first move this time, and after sorting a bit more will be throwing out
> a bit more, incrementally anyway.  So I'm traveling /much/ lighter, now.
> =:^)
>
> I'd have actually thrown some more except I didn't know where I was
> moving after the hotel.  So I kept some stuff in case I needed it when I
> ultimately move out of the hotel.  We'll see.

That's impressive - it took us the better part of 4 years to go through
all of our stuff before our first move 2 years ago.  We went from 3000
sq. ft. on two floors to 1200.  The second was to our temporary place,
and we've just finished the third (everything's unpacked, and we're just
rehoming the empty boxes and packing material).

Welcome back!  I know the feeling about needing to get everything hooked
back up - I was almost a week without reliable Internet access here, and
I need to get cell coverage sorted (I have a hotspot, but GPS reception
here is terrible, and it reports it is in the wrong location, apparently).

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Jim Henderson posted on Sat, 04 Jun 2016 17:11:58 +0000 as excerpted:

> On Sat, 04 Jun 2016 09:33:57 +0000, Duncan wrote:
>
>> Jim Henderson posted on Wed, 01 Jun 2016 18:05:39 +0000 as excerpted:
>>
>>> On Wed, 01 Jun 2016 13:01:31 +0000, Duncan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Today I'm moving... into a hotel for 90 days.
>>>
>>> Good luck with your move - we've just moved in to our new place this
>>> past weekend after ~3 months in a temporary place ourselves[.]
>>> The second move was much easier, since we unpacked only what we needed
>>> - but living out of boxes isn't a lot of fun.
>>
>> Obviously I finally got everything reattached and up and running at the
>> hotel.  [Y]es, the second move should be easier.  The two big problems
>> with the first were, (1) I've been in the same place for about 15
>> years, so had accumulated...
>> (2) I was in a trailer, which I had pulled behind me the last couple
>> times I moved, so didn't have the normal thinning out of stuff by
>> throwing a bunch away at the move, those times.  Really, the last time
>> I went thru everything in a move was the late 80s, tho I had gone thru
>> some of it over the years.  But I threw a bunch of stuff out in the
>> first move this time, and after sorting a bit more will be throwing out
>> a bit more, incrementally anyway.  So I'm traveling /much/ lighter,
>> now.  =:^)
>
> That's impressive - it took us the better part of 4 years to go through
> all of our stuff before our first move 2 years ago.  We went from 3000
> sq. ft. on two floors to 1200.  The second was to our temporary place,
> and we've just finished the third (everything's unpacked, and we're just
> rehoming the empty boxes and packing material).

Wow!  Part of the difference there is the size of the place.

For good or bad, the trailer was small enough to make physically
impossible accumulating beyond a certain point, tho I did have a small
shed as well.  It was just me, not me and a significant other, which
makes a difference, but still, it was under 500 sq ft.  So I really /did/
have a physical limit to the accumulation, which after a point, forced me
to go thru and throw out /something/ old if I wanted to fit the new.  And
to fit multiple big monitors (see below), I had to throw out some stuff.

So that's how I could go thru literally /everything/ in only a few days,
say half a week, tho on moving day I kind of gave up and there's a couple
boxes of only quick-sorted, throw out the biggest and most obvious
garbage and sort the rest later.


I don't have the specific offer from the city on the trailer yet, but  
the ballpark figures I've gotten so far indicate it should be an upgrade,
perhaps a healthier one than I might have imagined.  We'll see, but time
is counting down on the 90 day hotel now, and I expect to know
substantially more by the end of the week just now starting.

> Welcome back!  I know the feeling about needing to get everything hooked
> back up - I was almost a week without reliable Internet access here, and
> I need to get cell coverage sorted (I have a hotspot, but GPS reception
> here is terrible, and it reports it is in the wrong location,
> apparently).

Part of the situation and hookup problem was the fact that I'm actually
running triple monitor, all three full-HD 1920x1080, and the fact that
two of them are actually big-screen TVs, a 42" and a 48" (which is newer
and only slightly larger than the 42" as it has much smaller bezels).  Of
course I /could/ have redone the desktop to limit to one, and plugged
into the hotel TV's HDMI port, but it's "only" a 32" or so...  The full
size desktop on the full size monitors is /so/ much nicer to work with,
and I would have /hated/ to be limited to that, knowing the big ones were
in storage.  So I had them go to the hotel, at first figuring I'd have to
mount them to a couple 2x4s stood up as poles so as to avoid holes in the
walls from mounting them.  (Hotels don't like holes in the walls!)

Then I decided that while in the trailer I had the two big ones mounted
"stacked" (with the third small one logically stacked as well, but
physically off to the side), in the hotel I could set them up side by
side on the (long) dresser.

But then I found out the TV was bolted down and while I could have
unbolted it, I didn't want to give the hotel reason to complain, so...

I found a suitcase stand folded up in the closet.  It's now on top of the
dresser, with the big 48" sat on it (on its original stand, which I kept
even tho I had it wall-mounted), and the 42" in front of the suitcase
stand, on a drawer that's open just far enough to hold the 42", keeping
it down the three or so inches that it is taller than the suitcase stand,
so it's not obscuring either the bottom of the 48" display behind and
above it or the left edge of the hotel TV, still bolted to the dresser to
the right and back from the 42".

The "small" 21" is still physically off to the side, just as it was at
the trailer, tho now it's on the other side.  It's sitting on a chair, or
rather, on the back of the 5.1 tuner/amp that I also brought from the
trailer, that is actually sitting on the chair.  Tho I haven't hooked up
and turned on the 5.1 yet, as it has ventilation openings on the bottom
that are directly on the chair seat ATM, that I need to figure out how to
unobstruct before I try to use the 5.1.

All this at the foot of my big hotel double bed...

Then there's the VoIP phone adapter as well as the computer, both
connected via Ethernet to the old Linksys wrt54gl that's running openwrt,
with the wireless turned off so it's just functioning as an Ethernet
router and firewall between the LAN and the WAN/internet.  Its WAN used
to connect to the cable modem back in my trailer.  Now it connects to the
wifi adapter.

So quite a project connecting all that...

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Duncan posted on Sat, 04 Jun 2016 09:33:57 +0000 as excerpted:

> Obviously I finally got everything reattached and up and running at the
> hotel.  I don't know what speeds I get on the wifi yet, but it's good
> for this.

OK, off tomorrow, first day off since the move, and just finished setting
up the 5.1 surround-sound and firing up the computer to test it (which
I've not done yet), and decided I needed /some/ idea of my speeds.

Turns out, at the complimentary wifi level, at least ATM, I'm getting
~1.3 Mbps down and 1.0 Mbps up.  Tho I suspect it's prioritized under
anyone at the paid level (FWIW, $5/day), so I might get zero if they
start heavy-using it.

Not /too/ shabby; reasonable enough for complimentary, I suppose.

OK, trying some youtube streaming, testing streaming and the 5.1 both.  
Obviously won't be doing much 1080p, but 360p looks reasonable and stays
safely w/i the 1 Mbit envelop.  480p triggers repeated buffering, tho...

Looks like I'm going to have to setup some sort of wifi keep-alive ping
or something, tho, as otherwise it goes to sleep when there's no
activity, and that kills the VoIP dialtone, which IIRC I got once when I
first setup so it should be possible, but I haven't heard it since.  
Since it's thru the wrt54gl running openwrt, however, I should be able to
set that up on the router...

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Duncan posted on Mon, 06 Jun 2016 05:11:37 +0000 as excerpted:

> Looks like I'm going to have to setup some sort of wifi keep-alive ping
> or something, tho, as otherwise it goes to sleep when there's no
> activity, and that kills the VoIP dialtone, which IIRC I got once when I
> first setup so it should be possible, but I haven't heard it since.

Turns out the lack of dialtone was due to a loose phone plug.  It's
missing the little dohinky on the side that keeps it from pulling out,
and it had.  Tho I may still have to setup ping, as the connection will
go to sleep without activity.

But the youtube streaming has been surprisingly consistent, as long as I
keep it to 360p and thus under the 1-1.3 Mbit cap, which appears to be
deliberate per-user shaping.  It'll be interesting to see if I can keep
up the youtube streaming when I do the distro repos sync and pull down
build sources to update, as I expect to do after supper 2nite.

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On Sun, 05 Jun 2016 06:26:27 +0000, Duncan wrote:

> So quite a project connecting all that...

Yes indeed - sounds like quite a project indeed.  I did something
similar, actually - WNDR3800 running OpenWRT routing to a wifi in the
house we lived in for 3 months.  Did that for about a week after we moved
into our new place (almost 2 weeks ago now) until the cable got installed
last Friday - just in time for me to have to head out of town on
business. :)

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Duncan posted on Tue, 07 Jun 2016 00:15:34 +0000 as excerpted:

> Duncan posted on Mon, 06 Jun 2016 05:11:37 +0000 as excerpted:
>
>> Looks like I'm going to have to setup some sort of wifi keep-alive ping
>> or something, tho, as otherwise it goes to sleep when there's no
>> activity, and that kills the VoIP dialtone, which IIRC I got once when
>> I first setup so it should be possible, but I haven't heard it since.
>
> Turns out the lack of dialtone was due to a loose phone plug.  It's
> missing the little dohinky on the side that keeps it from pulling out,
> and it had.  Tho I may still have to setup ping, as the connection will
> go to sleep without activity.
>
> But the youtube streaming has been surprisingly consistent, as long as I
> keep it to 360p and thus under the 1-1.3 Mbit cap, which appears to be
> deliberate per-user shaping.  It'll be interesting to see if I can keep
> up the youtube streaming when I do the distro repos sync and pull down
> build sources to update, as I expect to do after supper 2nite.


So... nearly four months later and everything on the other end is coming
together.  As I explained up-thread, the city bought out the property I
was at, and moved me into a hotel temporarily.  Now I'm moving to my new
home. =:^)

As was the case in the original post, the more on topic angle is that
I'll be going offline for a hopefully short period, but parts of the new
setup aren't yet tested, so it's possible I'll be offline for days.  (In
the OP, it was possible, but unlikely, I'd be offline for months, luckily
the connectivity at the hotel was good enough I was back in just a few
days.  It shouldn't be more than a few days this time, and technically
could be as soon as tomorrow except I won't really have furniture for
another day or two after that.)

Given my status as somewhat of an anchor regular here, I don't want
people to be posting questions and not getting answers while I'm gone
because people think I'll answer, only I'll be gone.  So please pitch in
everyone and be especially willing to post answers if any newbies have
questions while I'm gone. =:^)

Of course this is the "good thing" IRL-busy I alluded to in my post to
another thread some minutes ago.  Just too much going on right now IRL to
try one of my hairy detail multi-hour compositions...


The more OT/personal story is that I got real lucky. =:^)

I've been living in an older and over time rather run-down trailer for
about three decades now.  I owned the trailer but was renting the space
it was on, after hauling the trailer from Oregon back in the early 90s.  
I had been in the until-this-thread location 10-15 years.

So the city bought out the trailer court, and I was the only one who
actually owned their trailer.  Most residents were living in trailers the
legal owners had abandoned years ago as not worth the cost of moving,
with the park owner simply renting them out again after cleanup.  The one
family was renting the actual house on the property.

So the law says they had to help relocate the displaced (unlike if a
private party would have bought it).  The folks that were renting got the
same 90-days (original) paid in the hotel, because the city wanted to go
ahead without the otherwise necessary notice and waiting period.  Then
they got a rent subsidy program, basically the difference between what
they were paying for the (mostly) substandard trailers and housing of
comparable number of bedrooms, etc, that met the "decent, safe and
sanitary" standards, for either 3-1/2 or 5 years, depending on which of
two different subsidy programs they qualified for.  So the space rent was
$400/mo, but market rents for 1-2 bedroom are around $600/mo and are of
course set to go up over the time of the subsidy, meaning these folks got
around a to-start rent subsidy max of $200/mo, tho if they for example
found a place that was only $450/mo, the city kept the other $150/mo,
they couldn't take it in cash.  But in five years, that $600/mo might be
say $750/mo, while they'd still be paying $400/mo.  Of course, after the
end of that 3.5-5 years, depending on the program, they'd be back on
their own.

But I got lucky, because I owned the trailer and was only renting the
spot.  Actually, I got **REAL** lucky.  The trailer was worth perhaps
$1000.  But because I owned it, due to the way the laws are setup and the
state and federal cost sharing the city gets, it actually costs the city
about the same to set me up in a new place of my own, as it would to do
the rent subsidy program.  Plus, from their perspective, that makes me a
new property tax payer as well, so I'm actually paying back into the
system in taxes that I wouldn't be paying at least directly, were I to
continue renting.

Again, fair market value for a comparable home, turns out to be about
$80-90K, 1-2 bedroom, decent, safe and sanitary.  So I got a budget of
$89,000 to go buy a house with.

See that **REAL** lucky yet?  $1000 value of the old place, nearly $90K
for a new place.  Plus the about $100/nite for the hotel for (originally)
three months, plus moving expenses on both ends, plus working with a
relocation specialist over that period.  Easily $100K.

So after moving into the hotel and eventually getting the initial
paperwork setting my shopping budget, I selected a real estate agent and
went shopping...

The first place we selected and put a contract on was real nice, a condo/
townhouse with all new all tile flooring, three bedroom, ceiling fans in
all bedrooms as well as the family room and dining area, etc.

Unfortunately, a few weeks in we found out the HOA was about to assess a
$30K *per* *unit* (148 units) special assessment fee to help with the
rotted out sewer lines (several million $$, along with some smaller
ticket repairs).  It was built in the 70s and had cast iron sewers which
were rotted out.  The problem had been building for a few years and was
getting unmanageable, spot repairs just weren't cutting it any longer.  
Unfortunately, despite a relatively high (for the unit market value) HOA
fee of $475/mo (tho that did include electric) and knowing this was
coming down the road for several years, they had only a few thousand in
reserves, pocket change compared to the millions it was going to cost,
thus the $30K/unit special assessment.  The other option was to recombine
the separately owned condos into a single owner apartment complex again,
but as the repairs would be figured in, the offered per-unit value would
have many owners taking a loss.

Oh, they /were/ talking about splitting it up over 3 years, $10K/year, of
course in addition to the continuing $475/mo regular HOA fee...  Like
$10K/year for 3 years in a row makes it much better.

If your reaction is that the owners should be having an audit done to see
exactly where that $475/mo was going and why there are no reserves to
speak of, you wouldn't be the first...  But fortunately, I never got into
a position to need to deal with that, as we got the information and were
able to cancel the deal before close.  So it's not a problem I need to
worry about.  =:^)

Anyway, the city wasn't going to pay my $30K assessment and I certainly
couldn't, so that one fell thru.

Of course that threw a wrench in things as I didn't have enough time left
on the 90 day hotel stay to find another one.  Fortunately the city
approved another month, after I provided a timeline of what we had been
doing so they could see I had actually been using the time, not sitting
in the hotel, lazy.  Thus the four months total.  And tho it was tight
timing, we made the second one, just in time as the hotel booking expires
on Friday.

The second one wasn't quite as big, only two bedroom, and has several
year old shag carpet in much of the house where the other one had new
tile throughout. (Phoenix, AZ, where we have a "winter" of about two
weeks and it seldom freezes, and effectively a split early summer and
late summer with 2-3 months of hell-oven in between, so tile as opposed
to carpet is a *good* thing!)  But it was reasonable otherwise, while the
first one felt too good to be true and turned out to be just that.  A
much smaller condo association, only 48 units, composed of three U-shaped
buildings of 16 units each, 8 each first and second floor, at each level
four at the bottom of the U, two on each end.  In each U is a courtyard,
one a pool, one (the one I'm in) a flagstone center courtyard with trees
and a BBQ, the third just graveled.

It's from 1968, so is a bit older than the first one, and has some of the
same iron sewer pipe issues too, as we found out.  Between the time we
first looked at it before contract, when it seemed fine, and the first
set of inspections under contract, a clear-water pipe burst, and upon
tearing apart the wall to fix it they found the rotted sewer pipe as well
and replaced it while they were there.  There was some mold evidence at
the first inspection, but we have certified environmental inspections
saying that's all cleaned up now.

But this is in some ways a pretty good positive.  First, it happened at
just the right time to get it dealt with before I bought it.  Second, the
pipe stack is actually in the middle of the unit, so it's only the two
units one directly above the other, affected, and with it dealt with for
them now, any problems with the others shouldn't affect us.

There's still some iron under the slab that may ultimately need dealt
with, but unlike the first place which had everything plumbed to a larger
common, this one is setup so again it's generally just two in a stack,
limiting the exposure for individual units.

Plus, the CC&Rs are setup rather better on this one, including a
requirement for a condo association level inspection every decade, I
think it is, with predicted costs going out 30 years and a reserves
audit.  Actually, this is just one example of several in the CC&Rs that
read to me like the original declarant/owner that set them up had a bad
experience at some point with a condo, and he really took care to write
the CC&Rs up to give the owners themselves direct power to curb, for
example an out-of-control property-manager, etc.  Given the horror tale I
read while researching another place I was looking at, that's a good
thing.

Anyway, as a result, with the HOA papers I got a copy of the latest
reserves audit and projected repairs and budget out 30 years, report,
completed in 2013.  They're *MUCH* healthier than the first place, and if
unexpecteds do happen and they need to do special assessments, they
should be far more reasonable.  And as I said, what issues still remain
in terms of iron sewers should be reasonably limited in scope.  And today
I noted some sewer cleanouts as well, with the significance being they
were ABS plastic, NOT iron.  Between that and the fact that they're about
four years older than the first one and thus should be four years further
along in the replacement process, evidence suggests that they're in more
or less the reverse position of the first one, mostly ABS now, with a bit
of iron remaining here and there, vs. spots of ABS on a still mostly
rotted iron core, at the first one.  Obviously with buildings that old
there will be repairs, but as I said, things are *noticeably* healthier
at the new place, and I'm reasonably optimistic.

Besides, worse case would be a 100% loss and I'm back to the renting I
thought I'd always be doing anyway, so I'm no worse off than I started.
=:^)


Meanwhile, the repairs took longer than they would have because they had
to get the HOA involved to get the upstairs unit repaired and covering
their share of the limited commons between the two.  That's actually what
nearly pushed us past the end of the month again, but it's done now, and
as I said, now I don't have to worry about that iron sewer pipe serving
the upper unit in the wall any more, so it's actually a fortunate
occurrence. =:^)

Anyway, originally we were supposed to close on Friday, the 16th.  With
the HOA involved that got pushed back to Friday, the 23rd.  But they were
still doing finish-up so we thought we'd give them the weekend and close
on Monday, the 26th.  But they still had some touchups to do on Monday,
that wouldn't be done in time to get the registration in to the banks.  
So it ended up being this AM, Tuesday.  But we got confirmation, and I
actually picked up the key from the real estate key-drop lock-box a bit
after noon.

I had scheduled the electric switchover for Monday, when I thought we'd
be done then, and got email confirmation of that.  And I filed the change
of address with the post office on I believe Thursday, via internet.

And I had arranged for the cable-internet installer with a 1-3PM window
today, when I thought we'd be moving in today.  But the move got pushed
back a day to 8 AM tommorrow/Wednesday because we weren't closed yet to
do it today.  Which is why I arrived about 12:30 PM today, to get the key
out of the lock-box and meet the cable-internet installer there possibly
a half-hour later.

It was actually a bit after 2 PM when the cable-internet installer got
there, but that gave me time to meet a few of the neighbors and take a
bit more leasurly stroll around the area than I had, previously.  
Additionally, I saw the postperson and was able to talk to him about
getting a new key for the postbox, plus pick up the mail, including some
junk mail, and the first thing addressed to me, with a change-of-address
sticker on it, so the post office has obviously processed that request.

Now to get the mailbox and pool/gate keys, pickup the HOA detail rules,
actually move from the hotel and storage, get my credit cards and etc
changed over, and buy some furniture, the only thing I really need to pay
for myself.

So as I said, tomorrow/Wednesday at 8 AM, the movers should be here to
move me from the hotel (city paid movers) and storage (city paid).  Which
is why this post, as after that until I get setup again, whenever that
is, I won't be reading/posting.  With the internet already on at the
house, technically I could be setup with the computer tomorrow.  But I
won't have furniture yet.  I'll probably get at least some furniture
either late Wednesday/tomorrow, or Thursday.  Meanwhile, I'll probably
stay tomorrow nite and possibly Thursday nite at the hotel, change-of-
cloths only, since I have it until Friday the 30th.  That'll give me some
time to get at least basics furniture.

Talking about furniture, there's a hotel-refurbishment company in town
that I'll be buying some stuff from.  It's used and not the cheapest tho
reasonable, but it's generally good quality commercial stuff so shouldn't
be falling over on me even if it has a dent or two, something that can't
always be said about the budget stuff you get from some furniture places.

It actually looks like patio furniture tends to be the cheapest, and
comfortable, so I'll be getting several patio chairs and a few tables as
well.  I'll probably skip sofas and the like for now, no need.

The thing I was most frustrated with was beds.  They're expensive, and I
haven't found anything I really liked, either.  But I mentioned that to
my real estate agent, and turns out they do amazon, etc, and found an air
bed to give me as a closing present.  As they explained it, it's not
permanent, but it's a far cry from the air mattresses people take
camping, too, and they regularly use them when they stay at their kids'
places, etc.  And it'll cover the gap for me for a few days/weeks/months
until I get settled in and have time to look for something I'm actually
happy with.

As for dressers, my boss says her daughter is trying to get rid of one
right now, that I can have.  I've not seen it, but I could do that and
wait until later if I don't like it, or just pick that up at the hotel
refurbishment place too.  Until then, like most single men I don't have
much kitchen stuff, and there's way more kitchen storage space than I'm
likely to use for kitchen stuff any time soon, so some of those might be
sock and t-shirt drawers, for now.  And I can leave some stuff in boxes,
and have a few shelves in storage, plus a few builtins in the various
closets.

But the big thing remaining is something for the computer monitors, three
of them, two actually bigscreen TVs, 42 and 48 inch, and one an old 21-
inch monitor.  I actually have them setup in the hotel, the 48-inch
perched on the hotel's luggage rack, in turn perched on the dresser
beside the hotel's 32-inch TV, so it's up in the air above the back of
the dresser, the 42-inch sitting on top of a partially open dresser
drawer, arranged so it's below (y-axis) and in front of (z-axis) the 48-
inch, to the left of the hotel's 32-inch TV, and the 21-inch sitting on
top of my 5.1 home-stereo amp, which is in turn sitting on a chair to the
left of the big-screen stack.  The computer is sitting in the chair hole
under the dresser, along with the subwoofer for the 5.1, with the power
cables beside it and under the chair with the 5.1 and 21-inch on top.

The point being, I had to use some ingenuity to figure out how to get it
all setup in the hotel room and I did that, so I'm sure I'll figure out
something for the house as well, even while I am still short on
furniture.  But it's unlikely to be while I don't have /any/ furniture
besides the airbed, so I'm likely to be out a couple days, anyway, and
while I have the week thru Friday off to do the move, I'm back at work
this weekend, so if I'm not done in a couple days, it could be week or 10
days 'time I get things setup and back on the list.


Oh, one more thing:  Superstition, karma, fate, God, or just
happenstance, call it what you will, but I'm convinced there's a bit more
to the story, as well...

You see, last Christmas season, before I had a clue the place was going
to sell and all this was going to go down, for the first time in years, I
had a bit of extra money laying around.  Of course there's still bills to
pay and it would have made a nice start on an SSD as a present to myself,
but my neighbor was having a tough time of it.  His wife had left him,
drugs and she had spent the money on that that should have gone to rent
and electric, so he was behind.  Additionally, he was suicidal for a
time, thinking with her gone he didn't have much to live for.  His
daughter helped pull him thru that, but I decided he could do with
someone else doing more than tell him he was valued.  A "still small
voice" as the saying goes, told me to forget whatever else I could do
with that money, and put $100 of it toward helping him with rent.

So I did, and had quite a happy Christmas knowing I had been able to
actually help someone else, not just with the money, but with the message
that yes, someone else /did/ consider him worth spending that money on --
and he knows how I struggle sometimes too, so he knew it wasn't spare
change...

Anyway, yes, I owned the trailer, having bought it from my folks, but I
never put it in my name, and the papers had long since disappeared.  The
trailer was last registered in Oregon, and I got a temporary permit to
move it down here.

So I really had no chance of finding the papers for it, and with Oregon's
last record of it being a temporary permit from a quarter century or so
ago, chances of getting anything from them were pretty slim as well.

As a result, when I moved into the hotel, after exhausting my last chance
to find them in the move and with the trailer condemned to demolition, I
thought I was only going to get the rent subsidy thing too.

But the land lady who was selling to the city thought well of me, and
after all knowing that I /had/ pulled in the trailer when I moved in,
apparently arranged to take the responsibility for the trailer herself,
in the remote chance someone did try to make trouble.

But I'm still convinced, the powers that be arranged for me to have that
extra $100 last December to see what I would do with it, and had I used
it for myself, I think things would have turned out quite differently,
and at best, I'd be getting the same 3.5-5 year rent subsidy as all the
others.

So like I said, call it what you will, karma, fate, happenstance, God,
whatever, I'm convinced had that $100 gone elsewhere, I'd have never seen
this place.  It could have gone that way /so/ easily, and by all rights,
/should/ have gone that way.

OTOH, one explanation is that it's exactly that sort of personality that
so impressed my landlady, that she took that responsibility and insisted
as part of her deal with the city that they treat me as the owner she
knew I was.  Had I not given my neighbor that $100 despite having it
extra for the first time in years, I'd have been someone with a different
personality, who wouldn't have so impressed my landlady, and she wouldn't
have made that bit part of the deal so I'd have just gotten the rent
subsidy.

Either way, I'm both convinced that had something to do with it, and not
complaining about how it all turned out. =:^)


Meanwhile... I'll be shutting down in a bit to sleep, and then getting up
to move.  "Y'all behave while I'm gone, OK?" =:^)

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On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 06:45:32 +0000, Duncan wrote:

> The thing I was most frustrated with was beds.  They're expensive, and I
> haven't found anything I really liked, either.

Beds can be as cheap as you like.  If you're handy with tools, you can
make one easily enough with scrap wood since once it's covered you can't
see it (unless you want a fancy headboard!).  The mattress, on the other
hand, can cost you an arm and a leg depending on what you need/want :-)

Good luck with the move!

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Dave posted on Wed, 28 Sep 2016 09:47:00 +0000 as excerpted:

> On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 06:45:32 +0000, Duncan wrote:
>
>> The thing I was most frustrated with was beds.  They're expensive, and
>> I haven't found anything I really liked, either.
>
> Beds can be as cheap as you like.  If you're handy with tools, you can
> make one easily enough with scrap wood since once it's covered you can't
> see it (unless you want a fancy headboard!).  The mattress, on the other
> hand, can cost you an arm and a leg depending on what you need/want :-)
>
> Good luck with the move!

OK, back online now, and the speed of a wired cable connection sure beats
the ATT-supplied wifi they had at the hotel! =:^)

Wednesday they moved stuff to the house.  Turns out I had some camp
chairs from 20+ years ago in storage, that I had forgotten about, so I
have a couple chairs, and with the airbed, the only thing I needed was
something to put the computer and monitors on.

Today/Thursday I picked up a $60 dual 7-foot wireframe shelf stack with
dual clothes hanger rods at Walmart, and taped the cloths hanger rods to
the top and bottom of the 48-inch monitor -- they were /exactly/ the
right length.  Those then attached to the shelving units on either side,
and it looks designed for it.  The 42-inch monitor is on a 30-inch wire-
frame shelf stack I had pulled out of the trailer, sitting under the 48-
inch.  The short shelf then has the computer on it, with room for the
keyboard in front of the 42-inch monitor.  The small 21-inch is sitting
diagonally on one of the 7-foot shelf-stack shelves, to the left of the
big monitors.  The router, VOIP phone adaptor, power strip, and 5.1 audio
amp are on a couple shelves on the stack to the right.

I did have to go buy a 50-foot ethernet cable to run between the cable
modem in the front of the house (where the cable comes in) and the router
setup in the bedroom, too.  Just long enough. =:^)  I have one more 30-
inch shelf unit that I can setup as a bedstand, for now.

Tomorrow/Friday I'll do that, and go shopping again to stock up on some
food, get a shower curtain, etc.  That should get me settled enough to go
to work Sat/Sun/Mon, and I'm off Tuesday again, perhaps to go to the
hotel refurbishment place and get some tables and chairs, at least.


As for the bed, yes, I was about to rebuild the bed in the trailer when I
got the news the city was buying and I might be junking it, so I didn't.  
I may well end up building something, indeed.  And mattresses are indeed
pricey.  Now that I have the airbed and don't have to really hurry, I'm
thinking about buying one online from Tuft&Needle (tn.com, they're
seriously advertising at least around here).  I wasn't too thrilled at
the price when I investigated them for the trailer, but now that it won't
end up being 1/2 the value of my home... Plus, talking to my folks, not
knowing I had actually checked into them, my Mom mentioned TN mattresses
did real good in Consumer Reports rankings recently.  That pretty well
changed my mind and I may _indeed_ get a TN mattress, as I've learned CR
ratings are definitely worth paying attention to!

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